already told preston i want a 10" driving specter to fit inbetween them, and prolly 2 spots to replace my factory fogs. i left the tails on to show where i tied off easier. clipped them right after the pics like that damn CUMMINS! yea they arent too bad. when i get some driving ones in place of my fogs then these will be just right. yea my bumper brackets are bent back a bit from a rear end accident that the guy took off on me. just need to bend them back sometime. thanks everyone else who commented and liked. appreciate the hook up again Preston. yours looks great too.